How to identify Buaya

The USGA handicap system is based on average of best 10 differential scores(multiply 0.96) from last 20 submitted scores.

Assuming the 20 scores as follows;

09 Jun 2011..... 94TA 70.4 131 20.4
30 May 2011..... 90A 69.8 129 17.7*
25 May 2011..... 86A 67.9 121 16.9*
16 May 2011..... 82A 70.4 125 10.5*
14 May 2011..... 84A 70.4 125 12.3*
12 May 2011..... 92TA 68.9 129 20.2
07 May 2011..... 90A 70.4 125 17.7*
20 Apr 2011..... 93A 70.4 125 20.4
15 Apr 2011..... 89A 72.0 141 13.6*
09 Apr 2011..... 97TA 71.8 132 21.6
07 Apr 2011..... 94A 72.8 132 18.1
31 Mar 2011..... 86A 68.2 123 16.4*
26 Mar 2011..... 93A 67.9 121 23.4
17 Mar 2011..... 96TA 68.9 129 23.7
12 Mar 2011..... 93A 70.4 125 20.4
05 Mar 2011..... 93A 70.4 125 20.4
24 Feb 2011..... 86TA 69.3 131 14.4*
22 Feb 2011..... 84A 69.3 131 12.7*
01 Feb 2011..... 92A 69.3 131 19.6
25 Jan 2011..... 93A 73.5 139 15.9*

The hcp index is 14.2 (around 86)

As you can see, the usual score is high 80 and low 90. Average score is 90. So for a normal person, the chance of hitting below index is rare (3/20 or 15%). Even when below index it will be 4 index point or less.

What is the chances of hitting 5 under or more? Almost zero (unless this person is improving at tremendous rate).

Buaya is those who has been submitting higher scores and keeping the lower scores and can play under index most of the times during crucial games (tournament or big betting game).

Personally I don't believe one person can shoot his best scores out of the blue. Even when you are improving, it will be only 3-4 under at best.

A normal golfer will play 3-4 above his index on usual games. If this kaki of yours has been playing par or under for the past few games, you must be alert.

Good luck!!!

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Golf Handicap Calculation - Step 1
A minimum of five scores and a maximum of 20 is required to get started. Remember, when posting scores for handicaps, you must your adjusted gross scores. For each score, the USGA Course Rating and Slope Rating for the courses played are also required. Using those figures, calculate the handicap differential for each round entered using this formula:

(Score - Course Rating) x 113 / Slope Rating

For example, let's say the score is 85, the course rating 72.2, the slope 131. The formula would be (85 - 72.2) x 113 / 131.

This differential is calculated for each round entered.

(Note: The number 113 represents the slope rating of a golf course of average difficulty, as set by the USGA.)

Golf Handicap Calculation - Step 2
Figure out how many differentials are being used. Not every differential that results from Step 1 will be used in the next step. If only five rounds are entered, only the lowest differential will be used. If 20 rounds are entered, only the 10 lowest differentials are used. A chart at the bottom of this page shows how many differentials are used based on the number of rounds entered.

Golf Handicap Calculation - Step 3
Get an average of the differentials used by adding them together and dividing by the number used (i.e., if five differentials are used, add them up and divide by five).

Multiply the result by .96 (96-percent). Drop all the digits after the tenths (do not round off) and the result is handicap index.

Thankfully, you don't have to do the golf handicap calculation on your own. Your golf club's handicap committee will handle it for you. You can also use our free handicap index calculator - give it a try!

And here's that chart we promised:

Number of Differentials Used
Rounds Entered Differentials Used
5-6.......... 1 lowest
7-8.......... 2 lowest
9-10........ 3 lowest
11-12...... 4 lowest
13-14...... 5 lowest
15-16...... 6 lowest
17.......... 7 lowest
18.......... 8 lowest
19.......... 9 lowest
20.......... 10 lowest

Thanks for the information..

I read this got headache.

You go SGA see my scores then can tell me whether I buaya or not.

sorry I'm new.. what's a buaya?.

Thanks NG for the info!

I understand that the best score recorded on the PGA Tour is 59

playing 13 under is possible - but it will be ranked as a once-in-a-blue-moon situation

if all players play in the true spirit of golf, adhere to the principles of the handicapping system and submit all scores (good and bad) for computation, then there will not be such a thing as buayaism

however since buayas do lurk in still waters, one can figure out the reason for the existence of buayaism

cyrano wrote:

sorry I'm new.. what's a buaya?.

Buaya means that the person declares his handicap is higher than it actually is.

Thanks NG for info ... Confirm i not buaya... My hcap 21.2, but my best score is 94 which is equal to hcap 22

Bro Coca-cola, pls remove me from your list

Buaya or not just join in the game......Buaya is a title people respect you than give you...you cannot earn it....

cyrano wrote:

sorry I'm new.. what's a buaya?.

As prettygolf has rightly pointed out, a buaya is one who is dishonest about their true playing ability with the intention to win tournament, bet & etc.

I think there is one more important factor in determining handicap....
Something like for low handicap, the maximum score per hole is different with mid or high handicap. I could not remember what was the term called but it can have significant difference between actual score and score used by handicap committee.

sandkie wrote:

I think there is one more important factor in determining handicap....
Something like for low handicap, the maximum score per hole is different with mid or high handicap. I could not remember what was the term called but it can have significant difference between actual score and score used by handicap committee.

That is for submitting score card, you do a ESC(Equitable Score Control) to adjust your score to your level. It is not directly used for determining hcp. Some score cards may not be adjusted, so this ESC may not be applicable.

This is a factor to avoid manipulate scores by buaya. They may purposely write 9, 10, etc to some holes to increase their score.

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Equitable Stroke Control (ESC) is the system put in place by the USGA to eliminate the effect of "distaster holes." You know, that one hole per round where you put three balls in the water and then 5-putt. It's also a way to combat those pernicious sandbaggers who intentionally blow up on a hole in order to raise their handicaps.

Equitable Stroke Control puts a limit on the number of strokes you can write down on the scorecard for any one hole, based on your course handicap. For example, on that one disaster hole you might have taken 14 strokes (get to the practice range, buddy!) to get the ball in the cup. But based on your course handicap, ESC might require you to post only a "7" on the scorecard you turn in.

Taking the "14" might throw your handicap index out of whack. And remember, the handicap index is not meant to reflect your average score, it's meant to reflect your best potential.

i always count the number of pars u play in a round....

10 pars = golfchow standard

8 pars = salty dog standard

6 pars = kookk standard

4 pars = UL standard

2 pars = seiko standard

0 pars = please-call-me-for-golf standard

slinger wrote:

i always count the number of pars u play in a round....

10 pars = golfchow standard

8 pars = salty dog standard

6 pars = kookk standard

4 pars = UL standard

2 pars = seiko standard

0 pars = please-call-me-for-golf standard

bro, i need to be the first to enroll .... what is your number? dun charge too expensive can?

Leon, great info.
I agree 101% of what you say.
A normal golfer will shoot 3 to 4 strokes higher than his hcp most of the time.

This is partly because the selected Handicap Differentials are then averaged out, and multiplied by 0.96. The resulting number to one decimal place (no rounding up or down) is your Handicap Index.

So if u can shoot even par, you are already playing above your standard liao.

Let's arrange a game soon.
Our standard should be you give me 2-2

slinger wrote:

i always count the number of pars u play in a round....

10 pars = golfchow standard

8 pars = salty dog standard

6 pars = kookk standard

4 pars = UL standard

2 pars = seiko standard

0 pars = please-call-me-for-golf standard

Bro Slinger,

Wah see me so up ah?? How to get 8 pars?

BTW, you forgot to put one line:

12 pars or more = slinger standard

slinger wrote:

i always count the number of pars u play in a round....

10 pars = golfchow standard

8 pars = salty dog standard

6 pars = kookk standard

4 pars = UL standard

2 pars = seiko standard

0 pars = please-call-me-for-golf standard

Bro slinger, I belong to 8 pars standard hor! 2 pars + 6 double pars...wahaha

Seiko wrote:

slinger wrote:

i always count the number of pars u play in a round....

10 pars = golfchow standard

8 pars = salty dog standard

6 pars = kookk standard

4 pars = UL standard

2 pars = seiko standard

0 pars = please-call-me-for-golf standard

Bro slinger, I belong to 8 pars standard hor! 2 pars + 6 double pars...wahaha

this is a total of 14 pars ....

salty dog wrote:

slinger wrote:

i always count the number of pars u play in a round....

10 pars = golfchow standard

8 pars = salty dog standard

6 pars = kookk standard

4 pars = UL standard

2 pars = seiko standard

0 pars = please-call-me-for-golf standard

Bro Slinger,

Wah see me so up ah?? How to get 8 pars?

BTW, you forgot to put one line:

12 pars or more = slinger standard

I agree with bro slinger. I withness SD score 9 pars 2 birdies

slinger wrote:

i always count the number of pars u play in a round....

10 pars = golfchow standard

8 pars = salty dog standard

6 pars = kookk standard

4 pars = UL standard

2 pars = seiko standard

0 pars = please-call-me-for-golf standard

What is your phone number?

slinger wrote:

i always count the number of pars u play in a round....

10 pars = golfchow standard

8 pars = salty dog standard

6 pars = kookk standard

4 pars = UL standard

2 pars = seiko standard

0 pars = please-call-me-for-golf standard

I think I also need to call you liao....

markie wrote:

Leon, great info.
I agree 101% of what you say.
A normal golfer will shoot 3 to 4 strokes higher than his hcp most of the time.

This is partly because the selected Handicap Differentials are then averaged out, and multiplied by 0.96. The resulting number to one decimal place (no rounding up or down) is your Handicap Index.

So if u can shoot even par, you are already playing above your standard liao.

Let's arrange a game soon.
Our standard should be you give me 2-2

For the past few games, you have been playing better than me leh...though I driver longer but I don't play better...
SAF day, you are 9th... I no where to be found...

YC.Low wrote:

salty dog wrote:

slinger wrote:

i always count the number of pars u play in a round....

10 pars = golfchow standard

8 pars = salty dog standard

6 pars = kookk standard

4 pars = UL standard

2 pars = seiko standard

0 pars = please-call-me-for-golf standard

Bro Slinger,

Wah see me so up ah?? How to get 8 pars?

BTW, you forgot to put one line:

12 pars or more = slinger standard

I agree with bro slinger. I withness SD score 9 pars 2 birdies

That one is called "once in a blue moon" lah. I was put in a flight with super good players.... It wouldn't happen again i promise. hehehehe

Kookk wrote:

slinger wrote:

i always count the number of pars u play in a round....

10 pars = golfchow standard

8 pars = salty dog standard

6 pars = kookk standard

4 pars = UL standard

2 pars = seiko standard

0 pars = please-call-me-for-golf standard

What is your phone number?

pls call 1-800-i-am-hen-ry

i try to call your number but u never answer leh..... why liddat....your Hp is 1-800-i-am-buaya, tio bo??

slinger wrote:

Kookk wrote:

slinger wrote:

i always count the number of pars u play in a round....

10 pars = golfchow standard

8 pars = salty dog standard

6 pars = kookk standard

4 pars = UL standard

2 pars = seiko standard

0 pars = please-call-me-for-golf standard

What is your phone number?

pls call 1-800-i-am-hen-ry

i try to call your number but u never answer leh..... why liddat....your Hp is 1-800-i-am-buaya, tio bo??