Caught secret training ...

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Who is he har............so fierce hor.........
train so hard.......for what.....wow lau............
He must be very good hor...........swee lor..............

GolfMan wrote:

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Who is he har............so fierce hor.........
train so hard.......for what.....wow lau............
He must be very good hor...........swee lor..............

Not really. His short game kanasia.... par 4 can play 12 stroke

Wow...no wonder nowaday call GM the phone ring so long. Now i know liao. Somemore always tell us he never been taught by coach before. hor hor....

Isn't that Bill Fua? where's this pic taken, may I ask?

RedPhoenix wrote:

Isn't that Bill Fua? where's this pic taken, may I ask?

I believe the picture taken in JCC. Out of curiosity, when was it taken?

RedPhoenix wrote:

Isn't that Bill Fua? where's this pic taken, may I ask?

Ms RP, Who is Bill Fua???...I only know Bill Gates or Bill Clinton!
Wah... You must be coached by many coaches...that's why
you are familiar with their names...

VR wrote:

RedPhoenix wrote:

Isn't that Bill Fua? where's this pic taken, may I ask?

Ms RP, Who is Bill Fua???...I only know Bill Gates or Bill Clinton!
Wah... You must be coached by many coaches...that's why
you are familiar with their names...

Hey VR, Bill Fua is one of our local Pro who used to teach at Parkland! I used to frequent Parkland when I used to live in the East.

RedPhoenix wrote:

VR wrote:

RedPhoenix wrote:

Isn't that Bill Fua? where's this pic taken, may I ask?

Ms RP, Who is Bill Fua???...I only know Bill Gates or Bill Clinton!
Wah... You must be coached by many coaches...that's why
you are familiar with their names...

Hey VR, Bill Fua is one of our local Pro who used to teach at Parkland! I used to frequent Parkland when I used to live in the East.

Thks Ms RP, actually I knew Bill Fua is a golf coach.. Just
want to know how good/great is his teaching method...
You also coached by him

Hi RP. It was taken yesterday at JCC... spot this guy very familiar under good hand of Bill ...

VR wrote:

RedPhoenix wrote:

VR wrote:

RedPhoenix wrote:

Isn't that Bill Fua? where's this pic taken, may I ask?

Ms RP, Who is Bill Fua???...I only know Bill Gates or Bill Clinton!
Wah... You must be coached by many coaches...that's why
you are familiar with their names...

Hey VR, Bill Fua is one of our local Pro who used to teach at Parkland! I used to frequent Parkland when I used to live in the East.

Thks Ms RP, actually I knew Bill Fua is a golf coach.. Just
want to know how good/great is his teaching method...
You also coached by him

Hi VR, had only 1 half hr lesson with him which is usually not enough I will intro you to a very good coach and friend when the opportunity arises. I won't put his name up as I want to avoid being labelled as soliciting. I can say he was a touring Pro and a true teacher

Thank You So Much Ms RP, I am just being kay poh...
No intention to go for any golfing lesson, not that I don't
need it...but just that golf for me now is just a recreation
activity...meeting 'nice' n 'fun' fellow golfers and just enjoy
the game,company and good food if we play in JB.

But you never know...maybe suddenly I have the urge and
inspiration to play better golf..anyway, if your coaching
friend is based in Mandai ECG range...I know most of them!

Just curious to know..Is there such thing as a 'True Teacher'
you mean the rest are Untrue...ha ha( just kidding)

VR wrote:

Thank You So Much Ms RP, I am just being kay poh...
No intention to go for any golfing lesson, not that I don't
need it...but just that golf for me now is just a recreation
activity...meeting 'nice' n 'fun' fellow golfers and just enjoy
the game,company and good food if we play in JB.

But you never know...maybe suddenly I have the urge and
inspiration to play better golf..anyway, if your coaching
friend is based in Mandai ECG range...I know most of them!

Just curious to know..Is there such thing as a 'True Teacher'
you mean the rest are Untrue...ha ha( just kidding)

Hey VR, it's our right to be kay poh you're right...golf is a recreation which brings people together to share and have fun

To me a True Teacher is someone who has my interest as a golfer in mind, not just making money from me but understanding my abilities/limitations/potentials and guide/lead me to have confidence in myself and my game.

A True Teacher is able to communicate effectively, by this I mean translate his/her instructions into the simplest form so that I can understand and execute the swing/move to the best of my ability. For eg. I once went to my pro for a session to work on my driver, I ended up being told ....this is wrong, that's not good, that needs fixing...in the end we never did work on my driver I end feeling worse about my game I felt I didn't get my money's worth!

Wow.. Ms RP, Your description and expectation
of a 'True' teacher is both very impressive and
realistic...so I presume this pro friend of yours
has all the attributes that you mention..

I look forward to the pleasure of meeting up
with him/her one day...if talk talk with this
pro must pay money or not..

VR wrote:

Wow.. Ms RP, Your description and expectation
of a 'True' teacher is both very impressive and
realistic...so I presume this pro friend of yours
has all the attributes that you mention..

I look forward to the pleasure of meeting up
with him/her one day...if talk talk with this
pro must pay money or not..

Hey VR, thank you yes he has all the attributes and look forward to you meeting him...he's very funny as well. For your info...talk talk to him..absolutely no charge....otherwise I hantam him...hahaha

Red Phonenix, seems like u have seen a lot of coaches before.
What is ur take on local pro vs foreign pro?

Hi markie, yes I've been thru a few coaches and found that it dosen't matter if they're local or foreign, the most important factor (in my opinion) is the personality, chemistry and communication of both the teacher and student. A good teacher need not know how to play/score well, they need to know how to teach effectively.

I once asked a friend what he thinks of a certain pro, his reply was if I wanted a good pro, look for a touring pro instead of a teaching pro. He was right!

I would like to know your take as well, if you don't mind sharing

RedPhoenix wrote:

Hi markie, yes I've been thru a few coaches and found that it dosen't matter if they're local or foreign, the most important factor (in my opinion) is the personality, chemistry and communication of both the teacher and student. A good teacher need not know how to play/score well, they need to know how to teach effectively.

I once asked a friend what he thinks of a certain pro, his reply was if I wanted a good pro, look for a touring pro instead of a teaching pro. He was right!

I would like to know your take as well, if you don't mind sharing

Hello Ms RP..I am a self taught golfer..so may not be
appropriate to put my view on the above..however I feel
that whether they are local or foreign, black or white
coach...it does not matter..neither are they SPGA,USTA
or USPGA certified, most importantly as you mentioned
they must be able to teach effectively..well sometime
cost is also a consideration for many of us.

You mentioned that a good teacher need not know how to
play/score well..but if a coach can't play well..I am quite
doubtful that he will be able to demostrate effectively on the
golf swing etc..

Your view on preference for Touring pro over Teaching
pro may be subjective...Not all ex touring pro are able
to impart their knowlege even they were very sucessful
during their playing career.. Likewise not all great
soccer players are great coach as well

As long you guys and girls don't caught me going into a motel in Joo chiat...thank you hor !

VR wrote:

RedPhoenix wrote:

Hi markie, yes I've been thru a few coaches and found that it dosen't matter if they're local or foreign, the most important factor (in my opinion) is the personality, chemistry and communication of both the teacher and student. A good teacher need not know how to play/score well, they need to know how to teach effectively.

I once asked a friend what he thinks of a certain pro, his reply was if I wanted a good pro, look for a touring pro instead of a teaching pro. He was right!

I would like to know your take as well, if you don't mind sharing

Hello Ms RP..I am a self taught golfer..so may not be
appropriate to put my view on the above..however I feel
that whether they are local or foreign, black or white
coach...it does not matter..neither are they SPGA,USTA
or USPGA certified, most importantly as you mentioned
they must be able to teach effectively..well sometime
cost is also a consideration for many of us.

You mentioned that a good teacher need not know how to
play/score well..but if a coach can't play well..I am quite
doubtful that he will be able to demostrate effectively on the
golf swing etc..

Your view on preference for Touring pro over Teaching
pro may be subjective...Not all ex touring pro are able
to impart their knowlege even they were very sucessful
during their playing career.. Likewise not all great
soccer players are great coach as well

Hi VR, it's great to know that you're a self-taught golfer, not many ppl can do that Cost will always be a concern unless you have a lot of disposable $$$

It would be a bonus if a good teacher can play and score well, but not always necessary, as the golf swing is a series of movements, well co-ordinated and synchronized. To me a teacher should be able to translate these of movements into words that learners can understand and in turn execute. (Mind you, some ppl learn well by emulating/copying which is one of the many ways of learning)

For me, there's no right or wrong swing in golf, it's what works for each of us an example would be Jim Fyruk, he has what the pro's classified as unorthodox swing, there's many others too esp on the Champions Tour.

Yes, you're right that not all x-touring pros can be good teachers.

At the end of the day, each of us will have to/want to find a pro who can give us the answer to playing better/scoring better....me included I'm very happy that I've finally found a golf pro whom believed in me and who I trust and respect deeply

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts

Hi RP and VR, to be honest I have been to almost 10 coaches.
USGTF, SPGA, Australia PGA, local, foreign, teaching, touring blah blah blah.....I have tried them all. Some of them are just for 1 lessons and some of them are a series of 6 to 10 lessons......but I have gone back to neither of them except my current pro.

In my opinion, foreign pro are usually better because they go thru more training to get certified as compared to local pro. Also I'm of the opinion that a good pro need to have a good pair of eyes......able to spot your mistake easily

He or she must then be able to explain the mistake to you and tell you what you need to do to correct the mistake and not just blindly follow

I agree with VR that a good pro must be able to play well.....not to tournament standard but must at least be able to break 80 easily.....do not be surprise that many teaching pro cannot really break 80

A good pro must design a training objectives or program for the student, track their progress, scold them if need to etc etc......actually I have many things to say but I am just lazy to type

But if u have any queries, I will try my best to answer
Note: just my opinion only

Oh 1 more thing, regardless of how good the pro is, if you dun put in effort to practice at least once a week, then its no use. You are then just paying the pro to watch you hit balls.

markie wrote:

Hi RP and VR, to be honest I have been to almost 10 coaches.
USGTF, SPGA, Australia PGA, local, foreign, teaching, touring blah blah blah.....I have tried them all. Some of them are just for 1 lessons and some of them are a series of 6 to 10 lessons......but I have gone back to neither of them except my current pro.

In my opinion, foreign pro are usually better because they go thru more training to get certified as compared to local pro. Also I'm of the opinion that a good pro need to have a good pair of eyes......able to spot your mistake easily

He or she must then be able to explain the mistake to you and tell you what you need to do to correct the mistake and not just blindly follow

I agree with VR that a good pro must be able to play well.....not to tournament standard but must at least be able to break 80 easily.....do not be surprise that many teaching pro cannot really break 80

A good pro must design a training objectives or program for the student, track their progress, scold them if need to etc etc......actually I have many things to say but I am just lazy to type

But if u have any queries, I will try my best to answer
Note: just my opinion only

Oh 1 more thing, regardless of how good the pro is, if you dun put in effort to practice at least once a week, then its no use. You are then just paying the pro to watch you hit balls.

Markie, thank you for sharing, it's great that you finally found one who has your best interest and that he can track your progress etc. I suppose not many ppl have the luxury of having one pro work with you

Just pay $$$$$

markie wrote:

Hi RP and VR, to be honest I have been to almost 10 coaches.
USGTF, SPGA, Australia PGA, local, foreign, teaching, touring blah blah blah.....I have tried them all. Some of them are just for 1 lessons and some of them are a series of 6 to 10 lessons......but I have gone back to neither of them except my current pro.

In my opinion, foreign pro are usually better because they go thru more training to get certified as compared to local pro. Also I'm of the opinion that a good pro need to have a good pair of eyes......able to spot your mistake easily

He or she must then be able to explain the mistake to you and tell you what you need to do to correct the mistake and not just blindly follow

I agree with VR that a good pro must be able to play well.....not to tournament standard but must at least be able to break 80 easily.....do not be surprise that many teaching pro cannot really break 80

A good pro must design a training objectives or program for the student, track their progress, scold them if need to etc etc......actually I have many things to say but I am just lazy to type

But if u have any queries, I will try my best to answer
Note: just my opinion only

Oh 1 more thing, regardless of how good the pro is, if you dun put in effort to practice at least once a week, then its no use. You are then just paying the pro to watch you hit balls.

Now I know why Mark Ko play so well..shaolin, wutan, wing chun, muay thai, kickboxing, taekwando, judo, boxing..all you know...Swee...

The last statement is exactly what my current coach told me before the start of the coaching- "if you don't put in the effort to train and play, I'll never be your miracle..." [i]